Guest nickname Posted December 10, 2005 Posted December 10, 2005 Io in GTR uso 540 e la leva per il cambio, le alette per me sono scomode.
Guest Ubaldo Posted December 10, 2005 Posted December 10, 2005 uhm uhm... ma quindi te imposti il volante a 600° per GTR? sto provando ma non mi ci trovo molto bene... mi da fastidio il force feedback... :s e poi voi usate cambio a leva o a paddle? 293481[/snapback] Io uso la leva per cambiare, quando ti abitui è ottimo. Il ff è forte ma se lo abbassi ti trovi bene. Poi ci si abitua, comunque. Puoi mettere nel plr i valori di gilles che sono ottimi!
Guest fedcas Posted December 10, 2005 Posted December 10, 2005 dove li trovo questi valori di gilles?
Guest Ubaldo Posted December 10, 2005 Posted December 10, 2005 eccoli qui. devi sostituire i tuoi nel file (è un file di testo) <tuo nome>.plr in C:\programmi\gtr\userdata\<tuo nome> FFB Device Type="1" // Type of FFB controller: 0=none 1=wheel, 2=stick/custom, 3=rumble pad. FFB Effects Level="4" // Number of FFB effects to use: 0=No Effects, 1=Low, 2=Medium, 3=High, 4=Full, 5=Custom. FFB Gain="0.90000" // Strength of Force Feedback effects. Range 0.0 to 1.0. FFB Throttle FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Throttle effects on throttle axis, 1 = throttle effects on steering axis. FFB Brake FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Brake effects on brake axis, 1 = brake effects on steering axis. FFB steer vibe freq mult="0.50000" // Controls frequency of steering vibration. Recommended: 0.5 to 1.0, 0.0 disables steering vibration. FFB steer vibe zero magnitude="0.00000" // Magnitude of steering vibration at 0mph (reference point). FFB steer vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB steer vibe zero magnitude). FFB steer vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down. FFB steer force average weight="0.90000" // How much weight is given to new steering force calculations each frame (0.01 - 1.0). Lower values will smooth out the steering force, but will also add latency. FFB steer force exponent="0.75000" // Steering force output "sensitivity". Range 0.0 to infinity. 0.0 to 1.0 = higher sensitivity, greater than 1.0 = lower sensitivity. FFB steer force input max="-11000.00000" // Recommended: 11500 (-11500 if controller pulls in the wrong direction). FFB steer force output max="2.10000" // Maximum force output of steering force, recommendation 0.8 to 2.0 FFB steer force grip weight="0.98000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.4 to 0.9. How much weight is given to tire grip when calculating steering force. FFB steer force grip factor="0.60000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.2 to 0.6. How much of a factor the front wheel grip is on the steering weight. FFB steer update thresh="0.00800" // Amount of change required to update steer force/vibe (0.0 - 1.0). Lower values = steering force updated more frequently = lower frame rate. FFB steer friction coefficient="0.05000" // Coefficient to use for steering friction. Range: -1.0 to 1.0 FFB steer friction saturation="1.00000" // Saturation value to use for steering friction. Range: 0 - 1.0 FFB steer damper coefficient="0.10000" // Coefficient to use for steering damper. Range: -1.0 to 1.0 FFB steer damper saturation="1.00000" // Saturation value to use for steering damper. Range: 0 - 1.0 FFB throttle vibe freq mult="0.17000" // Scales actual engine frequency to force FFB vibration frequency. Suggested range: 0.10 to 0.50 FFB throttle vibe zero magnitude="0.06000" // Magnitude of engine vibration at 0rpm (reference point). FFB throttle vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB throttle vibe zero magnitude). FFB throttle vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down. FFB throttle vibe update thresh="0.07000" // Amount of change required to update throttle vibe (0.0 - 1.0) FFB brake vibe freq mult="0.70000" // Scales actual brake rotational frequency to force feedback vibration frequency. FFB brake vibe zero magnitude="0.07000" // Magnitude of brake vibration at 0mph (reference point). FFB brake vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB brake vibe zero magnitude). FFB brake vibe wave type="1" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down. FFB brake vibe update thresh="0.04000" // Amount of change required to update brake vibe (0.0 to 1.0) FFB rumble strip magnitude="0.85000" // How strong the rumble strip rumble is. Range 0.0 to 1.0, 0.0 disables effect. FFB rumble strip freq mult="0.70000" // Rumble stip frequency multiplier 1.0 = one rumble per wheel rev. FFB rumble strip wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down. FFB rumble strip pull factor="-1.80000" // How strongly wheel pulls right/left when running over a rumble strip. Suggested range: -1.5 to 1.5. FFB rumble strip update thresh="0.06000" // Amount of change required to update rumble strip effect (0.0 - 1.0) FFB jolt magnitude="2.00000" // How strong jolts from other cars (or walls) are. Suggested Range: -2.0 to 2.0. FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
El_Vise Posted December 15, 2005 Posted December 15, 2005 Fedcas, non c'entra niente la corrispondenza del volante reale con quello virtuale...anzi, il mio consiglio è di levarlo perchè ti crea solo caos Per RBR io uso i 630° (visionando parecchi camera-car ho notato che dovrebbe essere la gradazione usata da molti piloti) se ti sembrano troppi (anche se è solo questione di abituarsi un pò) puoi abbassare fino a 540°, più in basso non scenderei.....200° li trovo pochi, rende il volante troppo sensibile IMHO. Una volta settato i gradi del dfp devi andare nelle opzioni di setup vettura....clicca sulla seconda voce (non ricordo se sia ammortizzatori o che altro) e poi su sterzo....vedrai a quanti gradi è settato........portalo agli stessi del dfp per avere la stessa corrispondenza; esci e salva il setup (non rimane in memoria altrimenti e devi ricordarti sempre di settarlo).
Guest TheAngel Posted December 15, 2005 Posted December 15, 2005 Sto impazzendo col DFP e GTL .... chiedo aiuto Allora io ho impostato i gradi a 450° e 23° di lock sul set della macchina ... Problema: quando giro il volante ..soprattutto nel lento .. sento la forza ( mi sembra di essere un Jedi lol ) fino a 20/30° ..poi un buco e la macchina ha un comportamento stranissimo: praticamente va in sovrasterzo, la sensazione è quella di avere la ruota interna puntata (insomma non di potenza). Altro quesito: se spunto la casella "molla di centratura" è normale che quando faccio la calibrazione il volante non torni in posizione centrale da solo? Scusate ma vengo da un veccchi MSSW senza FF ... grazie...
Guest Enoc Posted December 15, 2005 Posted December 15, 2005 arrivato oggi evvivaaaa, preso su a-more.it, 88 iuri + spese (circa 11 iuri) rev B, devo solo abituarmi, però mi ha già fatto un'ottima impressione soprattutto con rbr ma anche con gtl non male
Guest Ubaldo Posted December 15, 2005 Posted December 15, 2005 arrivato oggi evvivaaaa, preso su a-more.it, 88 iuri + spese (circa 11 iuri) rev B, devo solo abituarmi, però mi ha già fatto un'ottima impressione soprattutto con rbr ma anche con gtl non male 295634[/snapback] Con gtl se usi il DFP ad almeno 600° (e circa 30° di steer lock della vettura), disattiva la sterzata amplificata sotto i 90 km/h portando a 0.0 il valore nel plr "Steer Ratio Speed". Con questo tipo di macchine ti migliora la sensibilità, vista la bassa velocità di percorrenza delle curve
Guest TheAngel Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 arrivato oggi evvivaaaa, preso su a-more.it, 88 iuri + spese (circa 11 iuri) rev B, devo solo abituarmi, però mi ha già fatto un'ottima impressione soprattutto con rbr ma anche con gtl non male 295634[/snapback] Con gtl se usi il DFP ad almeno 600° (e circa 30° di steer lock della vettura), disattiva la sterzata amplificata sotto i 90 km/h portando a 0.0 il valore nel plr "Steer Ratio Speed". Con questo tipo di macchine ti migliora la sensibilità, vista la bassa velocità di percorrenza delle curve 295669[/snapback] ti ringrazio ..in effetti migliora ...rimane il problema che ho difficoltà nel controllo tipo recuperare un sovrasterzo .... boh forse è solo colpa mia ...
Guest fedcas Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 thx a tutti ora dovrei avere le idee più chiare riguardo la sterzata... ma questa storia dela rev, che ho già sentito più volte, che significa? da dove capisco che rev è il mio, e cosa cambia?
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