Guest The MagicSenna84 Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Ho sottolineato questo tuo passaggio perchè con GTR secondo me è proprio questo l'errore maggiore che si può fare. GTR a differenza di altri giochi per andare forte "bisogna andare piano" Sembra un controsenso ma è così, più uno si scanna per andare al limite, e più fa cappellate, con GTR ci vuole pulizia giro dopo giro, girando in tranquillità, e aggiustando il setup per rendere la vettura stabile, pian piano si vedono i tempi scendere progressivamente. Le vetture GT sono vetture da gare endurance e vanno guidate basando tutto sul passo di gara e non sugli hotlap. 256749[/snapback] ecco questo è cioè che nn sopporto... da F1ch online ero sempre tra i primi senza controlli...passo a GTR e sono sempre ultimo a 10 secondi dai primi tutto perchè c'è sempre un testacoda ogni cordolo e quando faccio dei giri fatti bene in sequenza ecco che le gomme sono già a banane...io voglio poter andar forte...sempre.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ubaldo Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 non è che usi assetti troppo rigidi? Io prendo i cordoli senza problemi.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AsterX Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Magic, se tutti gli altri i cordoli li prendono senza girarsi ogni 3x2, forse il problema è tuo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manaos Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Ho sottolineato questo tuo passaggio perchè con GTR secondo me è proprio questo l'errore maggiore che si può fare. GTR a differenza di altri giochi per andare forte "bisogna andare piano" Sembra un controsenso ma è così, più uno si scanna per andare al limite, e più fa cappellate, con GTR ci vuole pulizia giro dopo giro, girando in tranquillità, e aggiustando il setup per rendere la vettura stabile, pian piano si vedono i tempi scendere progressivamente. Le vetture GT sono vetture da gare endurance e vanno guidate basando tutto sul passo di gara e non sugli hotlap. 256749[/snapback] ecco questo è cioè che nn sopporto... da F1ch online ero sempre tra i primi senza controlli...passo a GTR e sono sempre ultimo a 10 secondi dai primi tutto perchè c'è sempre un testacoda ogni cordolo e quando faccio dei giri fatti bene in sequenza ecco che le gomme sono già a banane...io voglio poter andar forte...sempre.. 257084[/snapback] a GTR i cordoli si possono prendere anzi si devono prendere, ad esempio a Monza tipica pista da cordoli alla Roggia si aggredisce che è un piacere come anche alla Ascari che praticamente si fa tutta sui cordoli. Chiaro che non puoi pensare di passarci sopra e uscire a tavoletta come niente fosse, prima di dare gas la macchina deve essere stabile. Se hai grossi problemi con i cordoli probabilmente hai qualcosa che non va nella guida, forse sei troppo aggressivo. Poi F1ch e GTR sono due mondi diversi, andare forte con uno non vuol dire farlo anche con l'altro e poi c'è parecchia gente che arriva dai giochi Papy che forse sono un pò più vicino come guida e sono un pò più abituati alle gare online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsEye Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 l'ascari con GTR è una SCORDOLATA UNICA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rOOk Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 (edited) Anche io ho sempre avuto problemi con i cordoli di GTR e anche quelli di GTL e rF non è che mi vadano molto giù....evidentemente: 1) sono troppo abituato a nK (dove ho praticamente sempre la sensazione di quello che fa la macchina) 2) devo rivedere qualcosa del mio stile (lol) di guida. P.S. avete qualche link con un settaggio adatto a DFP+GTL che possa provare? Edited September 13, 2005 by rOOk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiago Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 A me ha fatto lo stesso scendendo dalla Jaguar E a Dijon e prendendo la Saleen (non l'avevo mai girata prima) a Vallelunga. Libidinosa. 256401[/snapback] Tiro fuori un OT grosso come una casa: dove la trovi Vallelunga? Da m4driving non funziona più il link.... Scusate non lo faccio più...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest met5 Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 A me ha fatto lo stesso scendendo dalla Jaguar E a Dijon e prendendo la Saleen (non l'avevo mai girata prima) a Vallelunga. Libidinosa. 256401[/snapback] Tiro fuori un OT grosso come una casa: dove la trovi Vallelunga? Da m4driving non funziona più il link.... Scusate non lo faccio più...... 257388[/snapback] MITICA Vallelunga, ci sto girando da matti....... se vuoi te la mando a pezzi x mail !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ubaldo Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Anche io ho sempre avuto problemi con i cordoli di GTR e anche quelli di GTL e rF non è che mi vadano molto giù....evidentemente: 1) sono troppo abituato a nK (dove ho praticamente sempre la sensazione di quello che fa la macchina) 2) devo rivedere qualcosa del mio stile (lol) di guida. P.S. avete qualche link con un settaggio adatto a DFP+GTL che possa provare? 257371[/snapback] Io invece non riesco tanto a sentire il grip in accelerazione in NK, mentre in GTR seno tutto.... Comunque sia per gtr che GTL ti consiglio i settaggi di Gilles, a cui ho fatto giusto dei ritocchi sulla potenza. Un consiglio: setta lo sterzo a 600° nel pannello e a 29° per ogni setup di macchina. Potrai fare correzioni rapide e controsterzi al limite se serve. FFB Device Type="1" // Type of FFB controller: 0=none 1=wheel, 2=stick/custom, 3=rumble pad. FFB Effects Level="4" // Number of FFB effects to use: 0=No Effects, 1=Low, 2=Medium, 3=High, 4=Full, 5=Custom. FFB Gain="0.95000" // Strength of Force Feedback effects. Range 0.0 to 1.0. FFB Throttle FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Throttle effects on throttle axis, 1 = throttle effects on steering axis. FFB Brake FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Brake effects on brake axis, 1 = brake effects on steering axis. FFB steer vibe freq mult="0.50000" // Controls frequency of steering vibration. Recommended: 0.5 to 1.0, 0.0 disables steering vibration. FFB steer vibe zero magnitude="0.00000" // Magnitude of steering vibration at 0mph (reference point). FFB steer vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB steer vibe zero magnitude). FFB steer vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down. FFB steer force average weight="0.90000" // How much weight is given to new steering force calculations each frame (0.01 - 1.0). Lower values will smooth out the steering force, but will also add latency. FFB steer force exponent="0.75000" // Steering force output "sensitivity". Range 0.0 to infinity. 0.0 to 1.0 = higher sensitivity, greater than 1.0 = lower sensitivity. FFB steer force input max="-11000.00000" // Recommended: 11500 (-11500 if controller pulls in the wrong direction). FFB steer force output max="2.10000" // Maximum force output of steering force, recommendation 0.8 to 2.0 FFB steer force grip weight="0.98000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.4 to 0.9. How much weight is given to tire grip when calculating steering force. FFB steer force grip factor="0.60000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.2 to 0.6. How much of a factor the front wheel grip is on the steering weight. FFB steer update thresh="0.00800" // Amount of change required to update steer force/vibe (0.0 - 1.0). Lower values = steering force updated more frequently = lower frame rate. FFB steer friction coefficient="0.05000" // Coefficient to use for steering friction. Range: -1.0 to 1.0 FFB steer friction saturation="1.00000" // Saturation value to use for steering friction. Range: 0 - 1.0 FFB steer damper coefficient="0.10000" // Coefficient to use for steering damper. Range: -1.0 to 1.0 FFB steer damper saturation="1.00000" // Saturation value to use for steering damper. Range: 0 - 1.0 FFB throttle vibe freq mult="0.17000" // Scales actual engine frequency to force FFB vibration frequency. Suggested range: 0.10 to 0.50 FFB throttle vibe zero magnitude="0.06000" // Magnitude of engine vibration at 0rpm (reference point). FFB throttle vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB throttle vibe zero magnitude). FFB throttle vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down. FFB throttle vibe update thresh="0.07000" // Amount of change required to update throttle vibe (0.0 - 1.0) FFB brake vibe freq mult="0.70000" // Scales actual brake rotational frequency to force feedback vibration frequency. FFB brake vibe zero magnitude="0.07000" // Magnitude of brake vibration at 0mph (reference point). FFB brake vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB brake vibe zero magnitude). FFB brake vibe wave type="1" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down. FFB brake vibe update thresh="0.04000" // Amount of change required to update brake vibe (0.0 to 1.0) FFB rumble strip magnitude="0.85000" // How strong the rumble strip rumble is. Range 0.0 to 1.0, 0.0 disables effect. FFB rumble strip freq mult="0.70000" // Rumble stip frequency multiplier 1.0 = one rumble per wheel rev. FFB rumble strip wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down. FFB rumble strip pull factor="-1.80000" // How strongly wheel pulls right/left when running over a rumble strip. Suggested range: -1.5 to 1.5. FFB rumble strip update thresh="0.06000" // Amount of change required to update rumble strip effect (0.0 - 1.0) FFB jolt magnitude="2.00000" // How strong jolts from other cars (or walls) are. Suggested Range: -2.0 to 2.0. FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring FFB Joy[02] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.50000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The MagicSenna84 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Magic, se tutti gli altri i cordoli li prendono senza girarsi ogni 3x2, forse il problema è tuo... 257306[/snapback] inchia che offesa forse perchè nn ho il volante? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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